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Hosted by Maren Holt

Maren ran a twelve-person bindery in Providence for fourteen years, then sold it to her staff. She started Even Keel to ask other owners the questions she once answered alone: what to charge, when to hire, and how to leave well.

  • Open ten years or moreEvery business on the show has made it through at least one hard decade.
  • Funded by customersProfitable, with no venture rounds and no plan to sell to a roll-up.
  • Small on purposeTeams of two to forty people who chose depth over speed.
24episodes so far
3seasons, since Sept 2025
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